Millet 8 SE Review | Can the Dragons 710 debut?

Xiaomi's new digital flagship series this year seems to be in a very embarrassing position. On the one hand, 2699 will be able to start with the high-end configuration of the Snapdragon 845+6+64. On the one hand, it is similar to the appearance of the iPhone X, although we There is no doubt that it will still sell big sales, but students who have a special look and feel for Xiaomi may be somewhat disappointed.

Relatively mid-range of some of the millet 8 SE, not only did the first Xiaolong 710 such a processor with many new features, the price from 1799 yuan is even more close to the people, the appearance of the more sturdy lines and iPhone To make a certain difference, as a whole, it seems that there is even a point to grab Big Brother's limelight. What exactly is the performance of Xiaomi 8 SE and Xiaolong 710? Let's make a judgment after learning.

Exterior

Appearance, millet 8 SE uses a double glass + metal frame design, the transition details of each material surface details work well, smooth without scratching feel, button feedback feel clean and neat. Although the forehead and back of the vertical double camera How much is still with the shadow of iPhone X, but the appearance of tough lines is to retain the last decent, the whole machine from the look and feel of the grip, it is still good.

Of course, this is not to say that the Mi 8 SE design has no slots. The first is the Big Bang, the Mi 8 SE does not have a full set of infrared face recognition originals on the Mi 8, but this bang is nothing less than the Mi 8, so The front camera on it, the light perception, the earpiece, and the arrangement of the front softlights are very open. The next is the upper, left and right sides of the black side are not equal, which may be a note for patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Crit, and the black side of the screen plus a black plastic buffer layer, the width is still a wide point, affecting the high screen ratio should be its own good impression.

Configuration

Configuration has always been the strength of millet, this millet 8 SE is no exception, not only its own configuration is strong, the camera material is also relatively full, using a rear 1200W +500W pixel dual-camera scheme, the CMOS are SONY's IMX 363 and Samsung's S5K5E8. The front is used a 2000W pixel self-timer lens, also from Samsung - S5K2T7.

Do not say anything, IMX 363 of which everyone should be very familiar with this year's photo development progress of several domestic flagship mobile phones, are using this very good quality of the CMOS, support Dual PD dual focus and EIS electronic anti-shake , Single-pixel photosensitive area reached 1.4μm, AI scene with f/1.9 aperture and identify 206 kinds of scenes is optimized, the actual photographic effect is still more people looking forward to, we will be talking with proofs.

In addition, the configuration is even more important is to win the first Snapdragon 710 processor, with 4GB+64GB (1799 yuan) and 6GB+64GB (1999 yuan) memory specifications, the main attack to everyone familiar with the 1999 segment. Xiaolong 710 processing The device uses two 2.2GHz Kryo 360 large cores (magic reform A75) + six 1.7GHz Kryo 360 small cores (magic reform A55) asymmetric design, using 10nm LPP process technology and Xiaolong 845 same paragraph Kryo 360 architecture with. GPU part, the use of Adreno 616 frequency reached 750MHz, the official announcement compared to the Adirondrone 660 on the Adreno 512 35% increase. Or the usual first run points.

The difference between the Xiaolong 660 (13-14W) and the Xiaolong 835 (21-23W) is not to be expected. This is what makes the Xiaolong 700 series become a new connecting layer. At the same time, the Xiaolong 710 has been affected. So much attention, but also because of its rich features, such as it is the first to support 4K HDR playback in addition to Xiaolong 800 series flagship processor SoC, with multi-core AI Engine, with Xiaolong 845 same paragraph Hexagon 685 DSP , The new Spectra 250 ISP, QC4+ fast charging technology and dual-channel Wi-Fi, etc., many of which have a great impact on our actual experience, here take the dual-channel Wi-Fi as an example.

This is the data that Xiaobian uses Mi SE 8 and an Android tablet (does not support dual-channel Wi-Fi) measured at the same location outside the two real wall intervals of the router. I will never tell you this picture is actually Common Wi-Fi corner in the family - bathroom shooting.

Need to explain, here we are connected to the Wi-Fi are 'XXX_5G_601', the phone shows a shade of green, the tablet is shown as a shade of blue, you can see when the millet 8 SE signal strength is still -74dBm or so, the tablet The signal is basically around -81dBm, and when the flat-panel signal rises, the rise and speed of the Mi-8SE will be faster. It seems that the effect of the dual-channel Wi-Fi in enhancing the coverage is obvious, and the Nilon 710 It is also because of the addition of features such as this, will have the potential to replace the dragon 660 U position.

Game test

Theoretical results can only be used as a reference. To know the actual experience, game measurement is indispensable. We still select the king's glory and stimulate the battlefield as the standard of two popular mobile games.

The first is the less glorious king of the configuration, we will open the picture quality and particle quality to high, and then open the high-definition display and high frame rate mode. (Test the use of software for Gamebench, there are students who want to understand the software can poke the official website link : https://www.gamebench.net/)

The above is the game performance of frame rate, frame distribution and CPU usage during the process of King Glory's glory. Excluding the abnormal fluctuations at the beginning of the game and the final stage of the final game, you can see that Mi SE is very stable throughout the game. The lowest point of obvious fluctuations, the frame rate can reach 48. Observing the CPU operating frequency, we can see that the two large cores of 7, 8 are all fully open, while the 1-4 cores of small cores are also always on, but 5, 6 When the two small cores are working, the time is relatively small. In the end, it is the burden of the king's glory is too small, or the scheduling strategy is intentional. We need further verification.

The next step is to stimulate chickens to stimulate the performance of the battlefield, first enter the screen settings, open the picture quality to the most high-end - high-definition, and then select the high frame rate, open the anti-aliasing settings and close the smooth adaptive.

It can be seen that although the burden on the game has been aggravated, the performance of the Snapdragon 710 is still strong. It stabilizes around 30 frames (by default, the stimulating battlefield is only open to the 30 frame high frame number setting for Xiaomi 8 SE). At the same time, we can see from the CPU performance that with the other cores being fully online, the 5, 6 cores still do not contribute much. It seems that this is a limitation of the scheduling strategy due to temperature control considerations. In this case, we test the temperature, the front high temperature has reached 39.5 °C, the back temperature is 39 °C, and it is only one step away from the 40 °C mark.

In order to test the potential of the Snapdragon 710, we also unlocked the ultra-high frame option by reducing the picture quality to a balanced one. Here we give a score for everyone's reference.

With the unlocking of ultra-high frames, the median frame count of Xiaomi 8 SE has also improved to 40 frames. It seems that there is still a lot of potential to be tapped. It is hoped that the stimulating battlefield officials can come up with paintings more suitable for Xiaolong 710 earlier. Quality limit setting, to avoid unlocking higher frame settings by reducing the picture quality just like now.

Photographing

Although we are very confident about IMX 363, we also know that camera performance is not only a good CMOS, but also the optimization of manufacturers, tuning, algorithms, processor ISP, lens group selection, dual camera selection and other aspects The various factors are closely related, of course, but now also need to add the specific performance of various AI optimization. Here praised the shooting probability of the AI ​​scene recognition of Xiaomi's own camera, among the mobile phones recently tested by Xiao Bian, only equipped with Huawei's P20 series of independent NPUs can be a battle, although it looks like 206 scenes are fewer than some of the factory's trademark charts, but the triggering rate is absolutely counter-kill.

What's more interesting here is that the second and third photos were originally the front and side of a building, but Xiaomi’s algorithm still has independent judgment on the subject the user wants to capture, such as the larger second sky area. , may focus on optimizing the blue sky and white clouds, the third building occupy the main position, it will be mainly for the optimization of the building.

ISO-99 1/152s f/1.9

ISO-99 1/152s f/1.9

ISO-202 1/40s f/1.9

ISO-100 1/120s f/1.9

From daytime lighting environment, the sample of Xiaomi 8 SE is still very good, thanks to the positive optimization of AI camera in most scenes, the picture color is very vivid, and it is easier to get the user's eyeball at first glance. The dynamic range of the relatively large light scene is still somewhat insufficient, but the basic highlight is to keep it, and the loss of shadow details is not obvious in terms of the visual perception.

ISO-310 1/20s f/1.9

ISO-159 1/20s f/1.9

ISO-168 1/15s f/1.9

In the night scene, Xiaomi 8 SE performed equally well, but the feeling was not stable. For example, the first proof was more complicated than the lighting environment and color. The noise control was worse than the last two proofs. At the same time, the shutter speed was under pressure. To be relatively low, everyone must be aware of the stability of the handle after pressing the shutter button for a short time while shooting the night scene. In addition, highlights are still prone to high light spillage, and they are also found during daytime shooting. Some of the scenes appear similar to those of the Xiaomi MIX 2S. Purple fringe. But overall, this photo performance is definitely an excellent category at the same price point.

to sum up

In general, because of the combination of Xiaolong 710 and IMX363, Xiaomi 8 SE is really a bucket machine with no obvious short board at the price of 1999. The only problem may be that the surface of the bucket is always Faintly reveals that there seems to be a bite off fruit LOGO. If you are not very sensitive to appearance, then Xiao Bian himself is very willing to think that you recommend Millet 8 SE is a really very affordable machine Type.

As for the performance of the Xiaolong 710, I don’t know what everyone’s rating means. Xiaobian’s quite satisfied. The GPU has been greatly strengthened. The energy consumption and temperature control are also in a controllable range. As long as the pricing is right, a large number of Xiaolong 710s are equipped. The cost-effective mobile phone may not be far away from us.

Finally, in fact, the appearance of the compromise was caused by the cost constraints. Those who said that their appearance changed, the small partners who are willing to buy XXX yuan more, that is to say most of them, and their proportion of users are also limited. Therefore, it seems reasonable to take care of the design of the main users of the market. It is just a pity for some iron powder that believes that millet will be different from the bottom of the heart. I wonder if they will continue to believe in millet. Will make a mobile phone that they are really happy with, maybe, will believe it.


Xiaomi's new digital flagship series this year seems to be in a very embarrassing position. On the one hand, 2699 will be able to start the high-end configuration of the Snapdragon 845+6+64. On the other hand, it is similar to the appearance of the iPhone X, although we There is no doubt that it will still sell big sales, but students who have a special look and feel for Xiaomi may be somewhat disappointed.

While the opposite end in some millet 8 SE, not only did the starting Snapdragon 710 processor with such a large number of new features, the price of 1799 yuan is close to the people seem a lot, appearance is also more tough lines and iPhone made some difference, it seems even the whole Big Brother thing to grab the limelight mean that millet 8 SE 710 Snapdragon performance and specific how, we still understand before making judgments.

Exterior

Appearance, millet 8 SE uses a double glass + metal frame design, the transition details of each material surface details work well, smooth without scratching, button feedback feel clean and neat. Although the forehead and back of the vertical dual camera How much is still with the shadow of iPhone X, but the appearance of tough lines is to retain the last decent, the whole machine from the look and feel of the grip, it is still good.

Of course, this is not to say that the Mi 8 SE design has no slots. The first is the Big Bang, the Mi 8 SE does not have a full set of infrared face recognition originals on the Mi 8, but this bang is nothing less than the Mi 8, so The front camera on it, the light perception, the earpiece, and the arrangement of the front softlights are very open. The next is the upper, left and right sides of the black side are not equal, which may be a note for patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Crit, and the black side of the screen plus a black plastic buffer layer, the width is still a wide point, affecting the high screen ratio should be its own good impression.

Configuration

Configuration has always been the strength of millet, this millet 8 SE is no exception, not only its own configuration is strong, the camera material is also relatively full, using a rear 1200W +500W pixel dual-camera scheme, the CMOS are SONY's IMX 363 and Samsung's S5K5E8. The front is used a 2000W pixel self-timer lens, also from Samsung - S5K2T7.

Do not say anything, IMX 363 of which everyone should be very familiar with this year's photo development progress of several domestic flagship mobile phones, are using this very good quality of the CMOS, support Dual PD dual focus and EIS electronic anti-shake , Single-pixel photosensitive area reached 1.4μm, AI scene with f/1.9 aperture and identify 206 kinds of scenes is optimized, the actual photographic effect is still more people looking forward to, we will be talking with proofs.

In addition, the configuration is more important is to win the first Snapdragon 710 processor, with 4GB+64GB (1799 yuan) and 6GB+64GB (1999 yuan) memory specifications, the main attack to everyone familiar with the 1999 segment. Xiaolong 710 processing The device uses two 2.2GHz Kryo 360 large cores (magic reform A75) + six 1.7GHz Kryo 360 small cores (magic reform A55) asymmetric design, using 10nm LPP process technology and Xiaolong 845 same paragraph Kryo 360 architecture with. GPU part, the use of Adreno 616 frequency reached 750MHz, the official announcement compared to the Adirondrone 660 on the Adreno 512 35% increase. Or the usual first run a point.

The difference between the Xiaolong 660 (13-14W) and the Xiaolong 835 (21-23W) is not to be expected. This is what makes the Xiaolong 700 series become a new connecting layer. At the same time, the Xiaolong 710 has been affected. So much attention, but also because of its rich features, such as it is the first to support 4K HDR playback in addition to Xiaolong 800 series flagship processor SoC, with multi-core AI Engine, with Xiaolong 845 same paragraph Hexagon 685 DSP , The new Spectra 250 ISP, QC4+ fast charging technology and dual-channel Wi-Fi, etc., many of which have a great impact on our actual experience, here take the dual-channel Wi-Fi as an example.

This is the data that Xiaobian uses Mi SE 8 and an Android tablet (does not support dual-channel Wi-Fi) measured at the same location outside the two real wall intervals of the router. I will never tell you this picture is actually Common Wi-Fi corner in the family - bathroom shooting.

Need to explain, here we are connected to the Wi-Fi are 'XXX_5G_601', the phone shows a shade of green, the tablet is shown as a shade of blue, you can see when the millet 8 SE signal strength is still -74dBm or so, the tablet The signal is basically around -81dBm, and when the flat-panel signal rises, the rise and speed of the Mi-8SE will be faster. It seems that the effect of the dual-channel Wi-Fi in enhancing the coverage is obvious, and the Nilon 710 It is also because of the addition of features such as this, will have the potential to replace the dragon 660 U position.

Game test

Theoretical results can only be used as a reference. To know the actual experience, game measurement is indispensable. We still select the king's glory and stimulate the battlefield as the standard of two popular mobile games.

The first is the less glorious king of the configuration, we will open the picture quality and particle quality to high, and then open the high-definition display and high frame rate mode. (Test the use of software for Gamebench, there are students who want to understand the software can poke the official website link : https://www.gamebench.net/)

The above is the game performance of frame rate, frame distribution and CPU usage during the process of King Glory's glory. Excluding the abnormal fluctuations at the beginning of the game and the final stage of the final game, you can see that Mi SE is very stable throughout the game. The lowest point of obvious fluctuations, the frame rate can reach 48. Observing the CPU operating frequency, we can see that the two large cores of 7, 8 are all fully open, while the 1-4 cores of small cores are also always on, but 5, 6 When the two small cores are working, the time is relatively small. In the end, it is the burden of the king's glory is too small, or the scheduling strategy is intentional. We need further verification.

The next step is to stimulate chickens to stimulate the performance of the battlefield, first enter the screen settings, open the picture quality to the most high-end - high-definition, and then select the high frame rate, open the anti-aliasing settings and close the smooth adaptive.

It can be seen that although the burden on the game has been aggravated, the performance of the Snapdragon 710 is still strong. It stabilizes around 30 frames (by default, the stimulating battlefield is only open to the 30 frame high frame number setting for Xiaomi 8 SE). At the same time, we can see from the CPU performance that with the other cores being fully online, the 5, 6 cores still do not contribute much. It seems that this is a limitation of the scheduling strategy due to temperature control considerations. In this case, we test the temperature, the front high temperature has reached 39.5 °C, the back temperature is 39 °C, and it is only one step away from the 40 °C mark.

In order to test the potential of the Snapdragon 710, we also unlocked the ultra-high frame option by reducing the picture quality to a balanced one. Here we give a score for everyone's reference.

With the unlocking of ultra-high frames, the median frame count of Xiaomi 8 SE has also improved to 40 frames. It seems that there is still a lot of potential to be tapped. It is hoped that the stimulating battlefield officials can come up with paintings more suitable for Xiaolong 710 earlier. Quality limit setting, to avoid unlocking higher frame settings by reducing the picture quality just like now.

Photographing

Although we are very confident about IMX 363, we also know that camera performance is not only a good CMOS, but also the optimization of manufacturers, tuning, algorithms, processor ISP, lens group selection, dual camera selection and other aspects The various factors are closely related, of course, but now also need to add the specific performance of various AI optimization. Here praised the shooting probability of the AI ​​scene recognition of Xiaomi's own camera, among the mobile phones recently tested by Xiao Bian, only equipped with Huawei's P20 series of independent NPUs can be a battle, although it looks like 206 scenes are fewer than some of the factory's trademark charts, but the triggering rate is absolutely counter-kill.

What's more interesting here is that the second and third photos were originally the front and side of a building, but Xiaomi’s algorithm still has an independent judgment on the subject that the user wants to capture, such as the larger second sky area. , may focus on optimizing the blue sky and white clouds, the third building occupy the main position, it will be mainly for the optimization of the building.

ISO-99 1/152s f/1.9

ISO-99 1/152s f/1.9

ISO-202 1/40s f/1.9

ISO-100 1/120s f/1.9

From daytime lighting environment, the sample of Xiaomi 8 SE is still very good, thanks to the positive optimization of AI camera in most scenes, the picture color is very vivid, and it is easier to get the user's eyeball at first glance. The dynamic range of the relatively large light scene is still somewhat insufficient, but the basic highlight is to keep it, and the loss of shadow details is not obvious in terms of the visual perception.

ISO-310 1/20s f/1.9

ISO-159 1/20s f/1.9

ISO-168 1/15s f/1.9

In the night scene, Xiaomi 8 SE performed equally well, but the feeling was not stable. For example, the first proof was more complicated than the lighting environment and color. The noise control was worse than the last two proofs. At the same time, the shutter speed was under pressure. To be relatively low, everyone must be aware of the stability of the handle after pressing the shutter button for a short time while shooting the night scene. In addition, highlights are still prone to high light spillage, and they are also found during daytime shooting. Some of the scenes appear similar to those of the Xiaomi MIX 2S. Purple fringe. But overall, this photo performance is definitely an excellent category at the same price point.

to sum up

In general, because of the combination of Xiaolong 710 and IMX363, Xiaomi 8 SE is really a bucket machine with no obvious short board at the price of 1999. The only problem may be that the surface of the bucket is always Faintly reveals that there seems to be a bite off fruit LOGO. If you are not very sensitive to appearance, then Xiao Bian himself is very willing to think that you recommend Millet 8 SE is a really very affordable machine Type.

As for the performance of the Xiaolong 710, I don’t know what everyone’s rating means. Xiaobian’s quite satisfied. The GPU has been greatly strengthened. The energy consumption and temperature control are also in a controllable range. As long as the pricing is right, a large number of Xiaolong 710s are equipped. The cost-effective mobile phone may not be far away from us.

Finally, in fact, the appearance of the compromise was caused by the cost constraints. Those who said that the appearance changed, the small partners who are willing to buy XXX yuan more, that is to say most of them, and their proportion of users are also limited. Therefore, it seems reasonable to take care of the appearance design of the main users of the market. It is just a pity for some iron powder that believes that millet will be different from the bottom of the heart. I wonder if they will continue to believe in millet. Will make a mobile phone that they are really happy with, maybe, will believe it.

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