Li Ganjie, Minister of Ecological Environment
After the 7th plenary session of the 13th National People's Congress on the March 19th, the press center of the 13th National People's Congress interviewed the heads of ministries and commissions of the State Council who were present at the 'Minister's Channel' in the North Hall of the Great Hall of the People.
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Reporter: What we would like to ask is that we discovered that there were some places where there was a tight supply of natural gas last winter. Some people said that it was caused by coal to gas conversion. Do you not know what you think of this kind of statement? Thank you.
Minister of Ecology and Environment Li Ganjie: Regarding the issue of natural gas supply last winter, the so-called “gas shortage” issue was very concerned in all aspects. This issue was actually at the press conference on March 6th. Director of National Development and Reform Commission He Lifeng, now the National Committee of the Political Consultative Conference He Lifeng The vice chairperson has made a very thorough and in-depth interpretation of the relevant reasons and the next steps to improve and strengthen the measures. I totally agree with the interpretation of Director Ho. I think it is very impressive. Today's question for you, I would like to add three introductions and understandings. The change from coal to electricity, coal to electricity should be a major contribution to the improvement of atmospheric environmental quality in the treatment of PM2.5, and the contribution is very large. Let's talk about coal to gas, coal to electricity. It is coal-to-coal gas that is burned by rural households. It is not all coal. It needs to be clarified first. It's not about industrial coal, it's about the coal burned by rural residents at home. The coal is burned at home. It is actually quite heavy. One ton of bulk coal is equivalent to more than 15 tons of coal, and one ton of bulk coal is equivalent to four or five tons of coal, and 28 cities around the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei area. Fifth, 60 million tons, we can calculate how many tons of coal is equivalent to electricity, so it is a significant proportion of the total pollutant emissions. In this sense, this piece is well-managed, for us The discharge of major pollutants, the decrease of PM2.5 concentration, and the improvement of the quality of the atmospheric environment have indeed contributed a lot. Since autumn and winter last year, we organized experts to conduct comparisons and put some of the 'double generations' of counties and towns into In the 'double generation' counties, the other measures are the same. The comparison results show that it is roughly one-third worse, that is to say coal to gas, coal to electricity in terms of environmental quality improvement, PM2.5 concentration The contribution rate to the decline is more than one-third, or even higher. So the first situation I would like to introduce to you is coal to gas, which is very important in improving the environment and improving the quality of atmospheric air. The achievements have already been achieved. It does not help.
Second, from December 15 to December 20 last year, at that time, the Ministry of Environmental Protection organized 2367 people, 839 groups, 28 cities, 385 counties, 2590 townships, and 25,220 villages. A screening test was carried out, but due to the relatively large number of reports, coal was changed to gas, and within the scope of coal-to-electricity reform, the people could not supply warm water and the problem of freezing was rather prominent. In order to solve this problem, no one household was allowed to do so. When the people were frozen, we carried out a big visit, a big condolence, and a special action by the Great Inspectorate. There were a total of 5.532 million households in about 25,220 villages. We found that 4.74 million households were completed and nearly 800,000 were completed. The household was not completed. In the process of construction, the original heating method was still used. Of the 4.74 million households, we found that some of them were indeed deficient due to some problems. There were 215 villages and 25220 villages. Among them, we immediately dispatched people to stay at the station, leading the local government, and the gas company. Within a few days, they got a better solution. The concept of everyone is that there are 215 villages in 25220 villages. After that, we established a long-term effect. Mechanism, Where we belong to us via telephone, WeChat, the network received reports, received information, which village, which household has problems, we immediately sent people to the scene, sent December 20 to the present, received a total of 80, including 70 items are true, and they are all better. Immediately resolve. In other words, from the perspective of the Ministry of Environmental Protection, on this issue, we are pushing coal to gas and coal to electricity, but at the same time and more importantly. It is necessary to provide sufficient heating in a timely manner in this process, and it is entirely possible to do so. As long as we put the people's concerns in mind and grasp it in our hands, there will be no problem.
Third, the promotion of clean winter heating in northern areas is a major decision-making arrangement for the central government to control haze and air pollution. This matter we must unswervingly push it forward and do a good job. Natural gas, in general, For now and in the future, I think it is definitely a scarce resource. All aspects need it. However, natural gas is used in different fields and in different aspects. The value is not the same. I personally believe that the present and the future are quite long. During the period, it was used to change gas from coal to gas, changing the value of the clean heating method of the people is the highest, because it brings not only a very good environmental benefit, environmental benefits in the first point I have already reported to everyone, at the same time It also brings good social benefits. Apart from environmental benefits, people also hope that natural gas can enter home, because after entering home, cooking is convenient, and bathing is convenient. There is no need to engage in very heavy sanitation, and the quality of life is improved. Everyone has the opportunity to visit and visit the homes of ordinary people who have already implemented coal to gas conversion and change coal to electricity. Ask the people how they feel. My feeling is that people generally are very welcome, because it means improving a quality of life.
Of course, there will certainly be some difficulties in this process. There are some problems, but I think these difficulties and problems can be completely resolved, including the protection of the air supply. The increase in our annual air supply is actually a considerable amount. Last year That is 30 billion cubic meters, and coal to gas, how much does it need to change electricity to coal? 3 million households, each household is an average of 1,500 cubic meters, 4.5 billion, 5 billion stopped, accounting for one-sixth of the proportion of If it is not high, I think that as long as the request of the Central Government is followed, according to Director He Lifeng's last briefing at the press conference, the improvement measures for the production, supply, storage, and sale of goods and stocks must be able to do a good job.
As the Ministry of Environmental Protection, as the current Ministry of Ecology and Environment, we will, as always, conscientiously and solidly implement this major decision of the Central Government, implement it well, and implement it well. Take this opportunity to renew our long-term friendship with reporters. We have sincerely expressed our sincere gratitude for the concern, understanding, support and help of our eco-environmental protection work. We also look forward to continuing to receive the attention, understanding, support and assistance from everyone in the future. I will say this, thank you all!