Ma Yun Davos advice: playing trade war is easy but it is difficult to stop

It is easy to fight a trade war, but it is hard to stop. The world should not use trade as a weapon, and trade should be treated as a solution to the problem.

Local time January 24, Alibaba Group Chairman Jack Ma at the Davos forum said that electricity providers have changed the traditional trading model, giving developing countries and SMEs a new opportunity to make trade more universal, so the world Need new trade rules.

On the same day, the first event was held under the long-term dialogue between "e-commerce enabled e-commerce" sponsored by eWTP (World Trade Electronic Platform), WTO (World Trade Organization) and World Economic Forum. Azevedo, WTO Director General, World Economic Forum Board member Richard Samans attended the event with Jack Ma, representing eWTP.

'E-commerce is the future, e-commerce will replace many traditional ways of doing business over the past 20 years, China does not improve the logistics system, payment systems and network facilities, but e-commerce continues to grow.' Ma said that in 2017 Alibaba platform With more than 750 billion U.S. dollars in turnover, e - commerce has brought rare opportunities for development to developing countries, young people and small and medium - sized enterprises. 'Young people like e - commerce very much. What young people like to do is the future.

Richard Samans made a remark on the occasion of Ma's remark: As soon as the trade ceased, the war started. Trade policy is one of the hot topics in Davos. At present, confrontations and barriers between trade zones still exist.

In response, Jack Ma replied that Internet technology is changing the world. There will be no Made in China (Made in China) or Made in USA (Made in USA) in the future, all of which will become Made in Internet.

'The process of globalization is an analgesic process of growth. When you sanction other countries through trade, the actual sanctions are on small businesses and young people. They will die just like you would throw a bomb, and that civilization will be blown up To use the Internet, electricity business to encourage young people, the more trade, the more business, the more solutions. 'Ma said.

Ma said the trade rules need to change under the era of e-commerce. The WTO has made outstanding contributions over the past years to ensure that the world understands each other and ensure that trade provides opportunities for developing countries and young people.

Ma Yun's point of view has been recognized by the WTO Director General Azevedo Azevedo mentioned in his speech that the international trading system should consider how to allow less developed countries to join in, so WTO, eWTP and the World Economic Forum jointly proposed to establish The long-term dialogue mechanism of 'enabling e-commerce' has led to the exchange and cooperation between the government, the private sector and academics.

Ma Yun said to the guests at the scene that the establishment of dialogue mechanism of 'enabling e-commerce' is very important. Now there are too many regulators' concerns. In the face of new things, the government should not first consider how to regulate but should learn how to deal with it. Things come up, whether you like them or not, the general will come in. To learn to work with young people, there is always a way for the world to have no shortage of smart people.

In November 2017, at the 11th Ministerial Conference of the World Trade Organization in Buenos Aires, Argentina, eWTP, WTO and the World Economic Forum jointly announced the establishment of a long-term dialogue mechanism to provide a connecting practice for global e-commerce and Policy of the bridge between the meeting rare support for the development of e-commerce to help the world's small and micro enterprises, to achieve inclusiveness of globalization to reach an agreement This is also the most dazzling outcome of the WTO Council of Ministers.

Attached dialogue points:

Host, member of the Board of the World Economic Forum Richard Samans: Jack Ma, there is still a big digital divide and billions of people do not yet have a network, so whenever someone talks about e-commerce, there is a doubt that the less developed countries Can you benefit from it? What is your opinion at this point?

Ma: In my opinion, the electricity supplier is the future.Electrical operators will replace many traditional ways of doing business.People say that in the past two decades, due to poor logistics, poor payment, the Internet is not good enough, but the electricity supplier is still rapidly Development, for our platform, just 15 years in China, people said no logistics, no credit, no financing, no this is not the case, even so, last year on our platform, the transaction volume of more than 750 billion US dollars , Converted into GDP is the world's 21st largest economy over the past two decades, there is no perfect logistics system, there is no perfect payment system, without blockchain technology, we can have such an increase.If the next 20 years, technology development All governments, all the organizations and entrepreneurs are ready, and if they feel that they will do so in the future and are now young people's lifestyles, then it is definitely the future. E-commerce is not just about big companies Or developed countries, e-commerce is conducive to developing countries, young people and small businesses.

In the past, young people did not have the chance to compete, and small businesses did not have the chance to compete with big companies, nor did developing countries have any chance. If you look at a country such as China, if we can develop into such a situation, I went to Peru a few years ago and I Remember to go to a square where they are doing the show and I was surprised to find that they hated the electricity supplier.A sudden arrival of a young Peruvian man said I was using the internet and I sold my Peruvian products to New Zealand and Australia and I had never before I thought I could actually make such a thing.It will surely become the future because the young people like it very much, so long as the young people like it, it is the future. This is my opinion and thanks.

Richard Samans: One of the topics of Davos is trade policy, more restrictive measures are still possible between different trade zones, more confrontation, Mr. Ma you have said a very famous word, once the trade ceased, The war begins.How do you think such seminars will evolve? What do you think the e-commerce plays in this role?

Ma: I do not think it is possible to stop trade. The world needs trade. Trade is the solution to the war. Once the trade stops, the war will start. I have always believed this point and trade has to change. In the past many years, the World Trade Organization It has done a very good job of making sure that the world understands each other and that trade is an opportunity for everyone.

But today I think the world has changed because of the new technology, and I would also like to say that the future will not be made in China, made in the United States, made in Peru, but will be made on the Internet, young people are interconnected online, In the future you like it or not, we are able to make all young people, all small businesses, global buyers, global sales, global shipping, global payments, global travel, a mobile phone can, even the passport is not needed, which is the trend, who Can not stop.Protecting and globalization, I think globalization is a good thing, do not let the baby is not born, put him to kill.

Today globalization is a painful growth. It is easy to fight a trade war. But it is very difficult to stop the war. I am scared and worried. I think the world should not use trade as a weapon and treat trade as a solution to the problem.

You sanction other countries, in fact the sanctions are small businesses, young people, they will die, just like you throw a bomb, that civilization will be destroyed, we believe that the Internet, electricity business to encourage young people, trade There are hundreds of ways to solve the problem, but there is only one reason why you want to fight the trade war is too easy, but it will take 30 years to solve the pain. My own opinion is not to trade We have a lot of ways to solve the war.

Third, we must not allow global trade to be controlled by 60,000 major corporations. We should benefit from technology and policies that encourage 6 million or 16 million or even 60 million small businesses, such as entrepreneurs from the Philippines who can buy , Global sales, this is the future, and is feasible.

Richard Samans: In response to the many responses to this debate, everyone said that we need a more inclusive economy. I would like to ask Members to talk about how you feel that this part of e-commerce and investment can help make our economy more inclusive and more progressive. tolerance.

Peru's Prime Minister Mercedes Araoz: We have to build and provide digital services. For example, Peru, Peru, has our website to help SMEs register, tax and obtain credit and payment, etc., so that they are more simple and faster, simplifying SME administrative procedures, Help them, but also have information, exchange of information among our trading partners.

We, as the government, should help our entrepreneurs because otherwise this market can only be monopolized by large enterprises. I fully agree with what you said and should benefit many small businesses, and should be facilitated and the government facilitated effect.

Azevedo, WTO Director General: In fact, the WTO conducted these discussions to some degree. The most important part is the digital divide. We still have 4 billion people without access to the Internet. Some small developing countries have no infrastructure and some have Of course, it is also a challenge to let them develop together. For example, the Philippines have also encountered great challenges.

We can not say that there is actually a practical limit on whether to go out and talk about electricity alone or not, and there is one important point in the WTO. We are also thinking about priorities, how we can prioritize, what to do first and what to do afterwards. More than 170 countries have signed a declaration that will discuss the development of e-commerce.

The efforts made by the World Economic Forum and WTO are very good because we can not talk nonsense and it covers a lot of areas and can easily lose its direction. Therefore, what we are doing and setting priorities are very important. This will require that we and the operators , Many private sector communication can do it.

Richard Samans: Mr. Jack Ma, we know your business has progressed very fast and will be trillions of trillion by 2020. What you are doing just now Azevedo is part of the process, is to promote the private sector , Including your business and other businesses, and public-private partnerships with the government, why are you willing to spend this time?

Ma: I think this is what this initiative is about and we are very happy to launch eWTP initiative with the World Economic Forum and WTO. EWTP is an e-commerce platform and an e-tourism platform because cross-border tourism brings to many SMEs Business .This dialogue is very important for the private sector.I respect the Azevedo said, there are many positive thinking.Now the regulators are worried about too much, there is security, there are concerns in that regard.No matter You do not worry about it, he likes it or does not like it.

17 years ago I was engaged in electricity business in China, many people said that China does not have a personal computer, you engage in electricity business who can think of suddenly there is such a high cell phone coverage in China yet because the establishment of mobile phone system than making roads and making a foundation Facilities are much faster.

I remember a group of IT experts gathered in Beijing to discuss how to regulate the Internet in the winter of 1994. I attended this meeting and raised many questions after two hours of debate. Two decades later, these experts None of the worries happened, none of them had any worries.

I think e-commerce has changed the way we do business.We used to be B2C, C2C will be the future, will be C2B, consumers to the business.Many should be customized.Traditionally, cross-border containers are required in the future will be in the form of packages So these rules will all change a lot: Today there are 1 million parcels from China to Russia, one way to Russia in China, and five years ago we launched an event that paralyzed the Russian postal system today, No problem. The government is learning, businesses are learning, we are learning, are follow-up, demand-driven. I think the government should not go to consider how to regulate, because you use the idea is 30 years ago, I told the government When officials deal, they often say how I regulate it.

I hope the first question I want in the next 30 years is how we can help and how to make our young people, our small businesses and the trade in and out of our trade simple and quick, so I said in Argentina that you Like or do not like, do it all, the general will come, there is cooperation with young people, and open and open government officials.If you are not smart enough, the world is no shortage of smart people, always find a way .

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