These two days of the World Internet Conference is very lively. Some people specifically to learn from, some people came to see friends, some people care about the numerous stories behind the big coffee.
Ma Yun, probably the most obvious one lying lie guns this year.It was distressed him, Ding Lei, Liu Qiang East group of two high degree of attention dinner, but none of him; kindly invested 10 billion to do public welfare, was 怼 ' Too rich. '
In this regard, what will Ma think? On the dinner, is not really invited, or no appointment? About those seemingly joke provocation, he how to look?
This reporter came to the Ma after a nearly face-to-face interview for an hour.He said: 'casual chat, what to talk about what to talk about.'
Ma Yun did not wear slippers
'Ah, come, ah, I have not changed the shoes yet.' Interview in Ma pillow during the conference stay in the hotel room pillow in front of Jack Ma, wearing socks on the floor, froze in front of everyone, left hand carry With a pair of shoes.
'Rest first and I change my shoes and the shoes are really uncomfortable,' he said, greeting a few minutes later wearing cloth shoes and the green 'Canada goose' down jacket.
'Cold is not cold?
'Are you really a lady?' I asked.
'I do not know ah, I see online that this is a women's clothing, I do not know.' He looked 懵, wide-eyed, spread his hand to me on the edge of the accompanying staff explained: 'Ma never buy clothes What others give him, what he is wearing.
'Sit here, warm here.' 'After greeting the man sitting by the edge, he leaned back in his chair and took his colleague's inscription,' Ali's sporty 'mug with his hair in the sun .
'Give me a few of this.' 'What?' 'This, pine nuts, ha ha.' Probably think before the pine nuts taste good, Jackie looked up again, with a colleague, like a dish, like a greedy child.
Talk about the dinner: gather very good, labeling is not good
The topic of dinner is inevitable, and I'm straightforward.
'There is no one invited me, of course, I do not necessarily have the time to invite me, I have not thought about joining or not participating.' He laughed.
In fact, as early as the day before, his staff told me that dinner that night, Ma has been in Hangzhou office. 'Hangzhou is relatively close to the end of the year, there are many things. There are many friends to attend the conference want to go see Hangzhou Comes are all guests, I have to accompany them.
'Good dinner, we have a rare year to get together, I feel good.' He peeled pine nuts, unhurriedly said: 'menu is not important, who is less important to eat, millions Do not get the meal was later labeled, then boring, but I think they are not deliberate.
Meal for the dinner, it is commonplace.Eat, in itself does not make much sense.
But the most important thing is that everyone comes and what is being discussed at the dinner table is to gather together some worthy of industry attention, such as what signals you want to express and what signals you receive.
Someone said he was distressed in his loneliness, he bites a pine nut, laughed: 'A meal can crush me? Joking ah. Ha ha ha'
'A little bit big thing, ah, just a meal Well, rivers and lakes are to be loyal, affectionate, not to fight .Alibaba today want to group a dinner, no less than any dinner in the world.
Ma cloud favorite dinner, has nothing to do with the work, singing, bragging, magic, and in his heart, Wuzhen to stay, not a meal, is the idea.
On public interest: public welfare is not a moral high ground, can not be used to comparisons
Just like a traditional program, every year at the World Internet Conference, Jack Ma would inevitably be forced by Liu Qiang.
Liu Qiangdong said: 'The Chinese are rich, and to what extent is it rich?' 'It is very uncomfortable for them to earn a billion or two billion dollars a month.' This is what Jack Ma told the Zheshang merchants at the recently concluded World Zheshang Conference The intention is big business, big responsibility, the pressure is also big.
'Do public good to high profile, do charity to low profile. Charity is to give, public welfare is to wake up, wake up more people involved. Public interest with the money does not matter, the most important thing is to do our best to have more power out of less power Out.
Earlier, Jack Ma said something to the media to the effect that: 'companies have the size and ability to size some companies do a village quite good, some big business that I do more, are good.' 'I have no clue The result has become something that we have hinted at. I have not thought about it yet.
In Ma 's opinion, public welfare is not a moral high ground, nor can it be used as a compliment. "I am most annoyed by public welfare extremists who have done their own point, and others can not do it.
'Public welfare is the most important thing is to purify their own heart is to awaken the hearts of people, is their active participation, public welfare is not a moral high ground, remember standing on the blame others. Everyone doing their best. No one has the responsibility to do public welfare, there is no right to go To blame others for not doing it is to love, not to set an example.
For example, he said: 'If in the marriage, to the other half, I am responsible to you, that is not right, it should be love.'
Talk about wealthy: Chinese people can buy the world to buy more good
Some people say that Jack Ma is the richest man, while others say Jack Ma fell to the richest man's position, and in short, he was hovering in the media of the richest man - not the richest man - the richest man - not the richest man in a year.
'I am certainly not the richest man, and no one wants to be the richest man, and when the richest man is going to have a different path than I am today, the style of work I do is different, such as structure and equity, and it is more painful for the richest man.' When he said these words, he folded all the features together.
Ma was also poor, half as poor as a month, leaving only three bucks in his pocket, and not having enough to eat a chicken in a year or two. "I was poor until 2004, when I started to have a little cash. I can adapt to the days of no money, can not adapt to a rich life. Some people say the poor, their poor I have felt.
He said he understands the richest man, 'rich' should be responsible 'negative', Alibaba do today's scale, 'the company is so big, you have to be responsible.'
Some people say that the Chinese people have become rich enough to buy and buy from around the world, but so many poor people live in the heat of water.
As a global buy and buy sponsor, Jack Ma what to say?
'Chinese people can buy and buy goods all over the world Well, if the Chinese can not buy and buy, what are we doing for the past three decades? Our effort is to make our future generations live better.'
'Wealth first help after the rich, we are the first to help the rich after the first beneficiary of the rich. This is also in my circle of friends in recent years, entrepreneur friends say more. But I do not think it is For example, we took out 100 billion to get rid of poverty, which is 100 billion in most of the staff dig their own, these employees are also the first to help the rich after the beneficiaries, and now they have to go to help more people Second, most of us are acting, engaging, not money, some of which are harsh, the result is unhappy entrepreneurs and unhappy donations. '
'Charity, ah, sometimes it is a respect for others. The money is for everyone, this is the tyrant's behavior .You can do charity is your blessing .You want to be thankful this time, there are some things you have to do our best For it
He said, 'Some people are rich and poor, rich and without ideas, and true wealth is inward wealth, and credit is the greatest wealth.'
Talk about 'standing team': Private friends, business competition right or wrong
In the outside world, powerful Ali is also lonely.
A few companies that once supported and invested in it now seem to be on the opposite side of Ali.
In this regard, Jack Ma is relieved, he classified all this as the inevitable result of commercial competition.
'Who stood behind those enterprises?' Ma Yun said he did not blame anyone, such as the drop founder and CEO Cheng Wei, or out from Ali, 'You ask him, how are you with me, we are privately Are friends, are very good, are outside the pass. There is competition certainly exist outside the station team. In fact, not the relationship between me and Ma is also very good, we often do public service. Because we represent the interests of their clients, on behalf of Partner interests, shareholders interests, business interests, no way. '
He said Ali's tactics may not be the same as others, some are doing well the 'united front ideology' and Ali is Go thinking of co-existence.
'We have our ecology, our strong ecology, SMEs, consumers are our ecology.We do not need to unite with those who do, those play is not our style, but the business is right or wrong.'