'War of the Year' unicorn 970 duel Snapdragon 835

Often see our evaluation of small partners should remember that some time ago we brought Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 and unicorn 960 ultimate performance comparison , The purpose is to confirm the 'powerful 10nm process technology' and overthrow the 'mobile phone SoC overcapacity' and now, Huawei's Mate 10 first unveiled the Kirin 970 platform, we in the initial experience after the initiation of a bold idea: with six months Before the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, and the latest unicorn 970 once again on the anus.

Some people may be surprised, the flagship SoC by the end of this year and the flagship has been commercial for comparison, is it comparable? But if you detail the performance of Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 series and Kirin 900 series over the years In contrast, you can easily find such a law:

1, Kirin 900 series in the second half can come up with benchmark performance and process technology does not lose the beginning of Xiao Long 800 Series SoC;

2, performance and six months ago Xiaolong 800 Department of similar Kirin 900 Department, often in the performance of stability to lose the former;

3, not only the performance of stability to lose, power consumption also lose together (these two points are often together to see).

If you want to take a specific example, the end of last year's Kirin 960 is a typical example of 14 / 16nm process technology is difficult to support Last year's flagship SoC performance has become a reality, Xiao Long 820/821 fever frequency phenomenon ; And Kirin 960 release, we after a series of tests and found that its overall power performance can only be used 'stunned glasses' to describe.

Unfortunately, the initial unicorn 960 release, numerous media and analysts unanimously believe it will counter-Qualcomm Snapdragon 820/821, become China's 'King of Performance'; the test results are all at once face-lift A lot of 'industry authority'.

So before the start of this test, we have made some conjectures on the outcome of the showdown according to the previous rule, with the following points:

1, Kirin 970 benchmark performance and Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 difficult to resolve, both have strong performance;

2, the same process, Qualcomm Xiaolong 835 have more stable performance, and better fever control.

3, Kirin 970 still can not counterattack.

Well, the next test is a process that confirms the guesswork or the face-guess. Let's take a look.

'All of the following tests were performed using the Huawei Mate 10 with the unicorn 970 platform and the millet 6 with the Snapdragon 835 platform from Qualcomm

Benchmark performance test

Benchmark performance, as its name implies, is the ultimate performance of a SoC without interference from the environment. Since it is impossible to completely avoid any interference in a non-ideal environment, we chose to test it in the fridge freezer , Minimize the impact of temperature on this important variable.

Quantifying the benchmarks of a SoC is as easy as running off-the-shelf software - such as GeekBench 4, which is a great handset benchmarking tool for CPU performance on CPUs and GPUs. Weakening the weight of running points on the overall performance evaluation, mainly due to the daily life of mobile phone performance may be huge differences with its benchmark performance; but in the benchmarking performance of the project, run the score measured by the software is very important. We look at the unicorn 970 platform and the Snapdragon 835 platform test results.

The first is the CPU, unicorn 970 ran out of single-core 1891 / multi-core 6647 results, Qualcomm Xiaolong 835 is single-core 1930 / multi-core 6726; the latter in both scores are higher than the former, but the range is not Large, can be said that no match.Using the 8 core Kryo 280 architecture Snapdragon 835 scores in the multi-core is no longer embarrassed; and because the refrigerator freezer cell phone performance almost independent of temperature, unicorn 970 results and the same conditions Under the unicorn 960 gap is not - after all, CPU specifications, these two SoC and no difference.

Next is the GPU benchmark performance test, also done in the fridge freezer.Unified with a 12-core Mali-G72 flagship GPU solution, the Kirin 970 scored 9060 in the first place while Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 with Qualcomm Adreno 540 GPU Only get 7711 points, the test scores upset, therefore, with powerful GPU benchmark performance, the current round of test Kirin 970 flag victory.

Actual scene test

Although Kirin 970 won the benchmark performance test victory, but we must note that benchmark performance is something you never experience in everyday life, not only the ambient temperature and battery status will affect the performance of the phone experience, the number of processes, Resources and so on variables are you have to be included.

We released a short time ago Violent abuse testing Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, Kirin 960 and MediaTek Helio X30 videos , But due to the limited time, we could not reproduce the extreme scenario of installing 150 APPs on each handset, so we replaced it with a 30-minute full-height copyrighted version of the simple and super-large game NBA 2K17. , We run the following test ambient temperature is 17 ℃, we all know.

In addition, 150 APP abuse tests are designed to test the multi-tasking of handset hardware platforms when parallel processing is performed in excess of multiple processes. The ultra-large-format, full-HD picture-based copy machines focus on testing long-term high-performance operation. Performance performance and fever situation.This also must be clear before the test to you.

Do not say nonsense, we look at the use of unicorn 970 platform Huawei Mate 10 pager full performance record. A full 30 minutes of full-high quality copy machine test, Mate 10 frame rate median 43fps, frame rate stability value (in 60.28% - only high-end hardware platform in the "NBA 2K17" this 'mobile phone killer' under the high quality of running out of such a result, which is absolutely no Controversial.

Looking at the full frame rate curve, in addition to the accidental Caton phenomenon that occurred 10 to 11 minutes before and after, the Huawei Mate 10 guaranteed the frame rate basically stable at 40fps over the first 20 minutes. However, after 20 minutes, we found that Mate 10 frame rate began to appear in the range of 30 ~ 40fps, and over time, the frame rate to 60fps began to reduce the number of times - even if the superior performance of TSMC 10nm process, 12-core G72 is still a hot issue can not be ignored, High frequency down-frequency situation still appears.

At the two points after the start of the test 10 minutes and 30 minutes after the completion of the test, we tested the temperature of the fuselage surface temperature for the reference equipment respectively. Huawei Mate 10 started measuring temperature of 35 ℃ after 10 minutes, After the end of the test measured temperature of 37 ℃; combined with the frame rate and temperature point of view, the unicorn 970 compared to 16nm process technology before the unicorn 960 conscience a lot, but the actual performance and benchmark performance gap is still small.

In contrast, Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 performance is Guards, is able to break the glass heart.If the unicorn 970 is the flagship, then used to describe Xiaolong 835 word can only be 'super God'. NBA 2K17 "the highest frame rate is 60fps, and millet 6 full frame rate median has reached 60fps; 99% of its frame rate stability value is more that millet 6 in 99% of the time frame Rate stable distribution at 60fps up and down 20% of the location or simply, do not look at us this string of data analysis, take a look at the frame rate distribution you can understand: Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 stable performance to people can not believe, It is cruel.

And compared to the previous room temperature 25 ℃ under the conditions for the high-pass Xiao Long 835 platform "NBA 2K17" with the rules of the pager test, we can easily find the ambient temperature changes for Xiaolong 835 this play 'stable dog' SoC will Resulting in no small impact (25 ℃, the test late Xiaolong 835 high temperature down the frequency of the situation.) Therefore, the unicorn 970 this relatively poor stability SoC is actually picking up a cheap, if this test occurred in the Room temperature 25 ℃ in the summer, the performance of unicorn 970 will be even worse.

As usual, millet 6 for 10 minutes and 30 minutes at the two points in time the highest body surface temperature test, the two tests were measured 32.7 ℃ and 35.9 ℃. At first glance Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 temperature rise than unicorn 970 also To be large, but Kirin 970 initial temperature was close to the value of the second temperature measurement Snapdragon 835, can only say that the unicorn 970 early in the test has begun a large-scale fever, the latter part of the fever slowed down .

to sum up

The end of the two rounds of tests, the unicorn 970 and the high-pass Xiaolong 835 basically confirmed our test before the guess - in the 'laboratory environment' benchmark performance, the unicorn 970 can even kill Xiaolong 835, but reduced to the actual life Scenario, the unicorn 970 performance and its limit performance gap is large, Xiao Long 835 can achieve stable and efficient performance to play.

Qualcomm Xiao Long 835 can be so 'Kaopu', Qualcomm 'magic change' custom Kyro 280 architecture and Qualcomm self-research Adreno 540 made a contribution.Now the high-end mobile phone SoC customization is getting higher and higher, even Apple is also A11 Bionic chip in the success of the 'grasp the core technology'; therefore, even if the release than the high-pass Xiaolong 835 late for more than six months, all with the public version of the configuration of the unicorn 970 still can only be eclipsed in front of the opponent.

This year's mobile phone SoC war, with the unicorn 970 'continue to lose the high-pass Xiaolong Xiao 835' came out.We hope that China's own high-end SoC can really master the core technology, and for Qualcomm, we are more eager to mobile phone hardware performance limit Of the break again - the chip between the manufacturers of the game, the ultimate profit is always the user; with them again and again brakes the bloody battle, we can continue to use a better phone.

Often see our evaluation of the small partners should remember that some time ago we brought Comparison of Ultimate Performance of Qualcomm Xiao Long 835 and Kirin 960 , The purpose is to confirm the 'powerful 10nm process technology' and overthrow the 'mobile phone SoC overcapacity' and now, Huawei's Mate 10 first unveiled the Kirin 970 platform, we in the initial experience after the initiation of a bold idea: with six months Before the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, and the latest unicorn 970 once again on the anus.

Some people may be surprised, the flagship SoC by the end of this year and the flagship has been commercially available for comparison, is it comparable? But if you detail the performance of Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 series and Kirin 900 series over the years In contrast, you can easily find such a law:

1, Kirin 900 Department in the second half can come up with benchmark performance and process technology is not lost early Snapdragon 800 Series SoC;

2, performance and half a year ago Xiaolong 800 series unicorn 900 lines, often in the performance of the stability of the lost to the former;

3, not only the stability of the performance to lose power fever also lose (these two points are often combined together to see).

If you want to take a specific example, the end of last year, Kirin 960 is a typical example of 14 / 16nm process technology is difficult to support last year's flagship SoC performance has become a reality, the Snapdragon 820/821 fever down frequency of frequent ; And Kirin 960 release, we have gone through a series of tests and found that its overall power performance can only be described as 'stunned'.

Unfortunately, the initial unicorn 960 release, numerous media and analysts unanimously believe it will counter-Qualcomm Snapdragon 820/821, become China's 'King of Performance'; the test results are all at once face-lift A lot of 'industry authority'.

So before the start of this test, we have made some conjectures on the outcome of the showdown according to the previous rule, with the following points:

1, Kirin 970 benchmark performance and Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 difficult to resolve, both have strong performance;

2, the same process, Qualcomm Xiaolong 835 have more stable performance, and better fever control.

3, Kirin 970 still can not counterattack.

Well, the next test is a process that confirms the guesswork or the face-guess. Let's take a look.

'All of the following tests were performed using the Huawei Mate 10 with the unicorn 970 platform and the millet 6 with the Snapdragon 835 platform from Qualcomm

Benchmark performance test

Benchmark performance, as its name implies, is the ultimate performance of a SoC without interference from the environment. Since it is impossible to completely avoid any interference in a non-ideal environment, we chose to test it in the fridge freezer , Minimize the impact of temperature on this important variable.

Quantifying the benchmarks of a SoC is as easy as running off-the-shelf software - such as GeekBench 4, which is a great handset benchmarking tool for CPU performance on CPUs and GPUs. Weakening the weight of running points on the overall performance evaluation, mainly due to the daily life of mobile phone performance may be huge differences with its benchmark performance; but in the benchmarking performance of the project, run the score measured by the software is very important. We look at the unicorn 970 platform and the Snapdragon 835 platform test results.

The first is the CPU, unicorn 970 ran out of the single core 1891 / multi-core 6647 results, Qualcomm Xiao Long 835 is a single core 1930 / multi-core 6726; the latter in the two results are higher than the former, but the range is not The use of the 8 core Kryo 280 architecture Xiaolong 835 in the multi-core score is no longer embarrassing; and because the refrigerator freezer mobile phone performance is almost free from temperature, the unicorn 970 results and the same conditions Under the unicorn 960 gap is small - after all, in the CPU specifications, the two SoC and no difference.

Followed by the GPU benchmark performance test, also in the refrigerator freezer to complete with 12 core Mali-G72 flagship GPU solution Kirin 970 in one go to get 9060 high score, and the use of Qualcomm Adreno 540 GPU Qualcomm Xiao Long 835 Only to get 7711 points, test scores high judgment.Therefore, by virtue of the powerful GPU benchmark performance, the current round of test links in the unicorn 970 victory.

Actual scene test

Although the unicorn 970 won the benchmark performance test victory, but we should note that the benchmark performance is always in your daily life can not experience things, not only the ambient temperature and battery status will affect the performance of the phone experience, the number of processes, Resource occupancy, etc. variables are also you must include.

We had a long time ago Violent abuse test high-pass Xiao Long 835, Kirin 960 and MediaTek Helio X30 video , But because of this time is limited, we can not reproduce each phone to install 150 APP limit scene, so with a simple and rude super game "NBA 2K17" full-high quality copy machine 30 minutes instead. , We run the following test the ambient temperature is 17 ℃, please we all know.

In addition, 150 APP anti-abuse test is designed to test the mobile phone hardware platform in the multi-process parallel multi-task processing situation; and very large game full-high quality copy machine is focused on testing long hours of high-performance operation, mobile hardware platform full Performance to play the performance and heat situation. This point to the same test before we explain to everyone.

Not to talk nonsense, we look at the entire performance record of using the Huawei Mate 10 Kiosk with the unicorn 970. In the full 30-minute full-HD picture-in-kicking test, the median Mate 10 frame rate is 43fps, the frame rate stability value 60.28% - Only high-end hardware platforms will be able to get such a result under the full-height image of 'Mobile Killer' NBA 2K17, which is absolutely none Controversial.

Looking at the full frame rate curve, in addition to the accidental Caton phenomenon that occurred 10 to 11 minutes before and after, the Huawei Mate 10 guaranteed the frame rate basically stable above 40fps in the first 20 minutes; however, after 20 minutes, we found that Mate 10 frame rate began to appear in the range of 30 ~ 40fps, and over time, the frame rate to 60fps began to reduce the number of times - even if the superior performance of TSMC 10nm process, 12-core G72 is still a hot issue can not be ignored, High frequency down-frequency situation still appears.

At 10 minutes after the start of the test and at 30 minutes after the completion of the test, we respectively measured the temperature of the highest point of the body surface temperature of the equipment under test. The Huawei Mate 10 measured the temperature at 35 ° C after 10 minutes, Measured at the end of the test temperature of 37 ℃; combined with the frame rate and temperature point of view, unicorn 970 compared to the 16nm process before the Kirin 960 conscience a lot, but the actual performance and benchmark performance gap is still not small.

In contrast, the performance of the high-pass Xiao Long 835 is Guards, is to break the glass heart.If the unicorn 970 is the flagship, then used to describe the Xiao Long 835 words can only be 'super god'. NBA 2K17 "the maximum frame rate is 60fps, and millet 6 full frame rate of the median has reached 60fps; its 99% frame rate stability value is explained millet 6 in 99% of the time can frame The rate of stability in the 60fps up and down within 20% of the location. Or simply, do not look at our string of data analysis, look at the frame rate map you can understand: Qualcomm Xiao Long 835 performance stable to people can not believe, It is cruel.

Compared with 25 ℃ at room temperature before the conditions for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 platform, "NBA 2K17" with the rules of kinder test, we can easily find that the temperature changes for the Snapdragon 835 play such a 'stable dog' SoC will (25 ℃, the latter part of the test Xiaolong 835 high temperature frequency reduction situation.) Therefore, the unreliable stability of Kirin 970 SoC is actually picked up a cheap, if this test took place at 25 ℃ summer, unicorn 970's performance is bound to be even worse.

As usual, millet 6 for 10 minutes and 30 minutes at the two points in time the highest body surface temperature test, the two tests were measured 32.7 ℃ and 35.9 ℃. At first glance Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 temperature rise than unicorn 970 also To be large, but Kirin 970 initial temperature was close to the value of the second temperature measurement Snapdragon 835, can only say that the unicorn 970 early in the test has begun a large-scale fever, the latter part of the fever slowed down .

to sum up

Two rounds of tests ended, Kirin 970 and Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 basic performance of our tests before the test conjecture - in the 'laboratory environment' benchmark performance, unicorn 970 can even kill Snapdragon 835, but returned to real life Scene, the unicorn 970 performance and its great performance gap, Snapdragon 835 can achieve stable and efficient performance play.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 can be so 'fly', Qualcomm 'magic change' custom Kyro 280 architecture and Qualcomm self-developed Adreno 540 made a lot of high-end mobile SoC customization, even Apple is also A11 Bionic chip success 'master display core technology'; Therefore, even released more than half a year later than Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, all using the public version of the configuration of unicorn 970 still only eclipsed in front of opponents.

This year's SoC mobile phone handsets, with the unicorn 970 'continue to fail Qualcomm Xiaolong 835' came to an end.We very much hope that China's own high-end SoC can really grasp the core technology, and for Qualcomm, we are more hungry for the performance limit of mobile phone hardware Breakthrough again - chip makers game, the ultimate profit-making is always the user; with their hard-line time and again the bloody battle, we can continue to use a better mobile phone.